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SHAWN DROVER OF MEGADETH: THE METAL ARMY INTERVIEW

Thursday, September 15th, 2011

Metal Army caught up with Shawn Drover of MEGADETH at this year’s ROCKSTAR ENERGY DRINK MAYHEM FESTIVAL. Even though we were being attacked by trees and wind Shawn was kind with his time and very candid about topics such as touring, their upcoming new record Thirteen (Roadrunner), choosing a set list, drumming in a band with famous former players and The Big 4 shows.

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MEGADETH played the main stage at Mayhem Festival this summer before a shoulder injury to front man Dave Mustaine derailed them.

 

MAA: How is the tour going so far?

SD: It’s going good man. We are finally settled in now. We had done a bunch of shows in Europe with The Big 4, jumped on a plane from France to San Francisco and played about five hours later on stage. It was a real test of our endurance, but we pulled it off and it’s been all good. This entire tour has been a lot of fun with a lot of diverse bands out here.

 

MAA: The band is playing a new MEGADETH song, “Public Enemy #1” live on the tour. How does is stack up compared to the tracks on Endgame?

SD: Musically speaking? It’s just another metal song by. I don’t like to compare apples and oranges. It’s just another good, mid-tempo metal song by us. I don’t know why we are playing that particular song to be honest, because we are really happy with the new record. The new album is great and covers a lot of ground within the parameters of metal. I’m glad we’re playing it. It’s just a good tune, man. It’s catchy and heavy so its going over really well. We’ve done this before, with stuff that hasn’t been heard by the public. We did that last time with “Headcrusher”, we did that with “Washington Is Next” before that on the previous tour. This is a good vehicle to do that, to see what goes over well and what doesn’t go over well. We like trying out new songs in a live setting, so our batting average previewing tracks early is pretty high. So we’re very happy to do it.

 

Shawn began MEGADETH's Mayhem set with the opening drums for "Trust".

 

MAA: I understand the band finished Thirteen really quickly between tours. How did that come about?

SD: We finished it in record time! Certainly the fastest time to record an album since I’ve been in the band, by leaps and bounds. I’m glad we finished it, but if we didn’t it would have been okay. We would have just gone back in and finished it up after this tour leg with Mayhem. We’ve all been really inspired and we such a mass good riffs to assemble songs and that is always good too. We were really prepared to work and even some stuff we didn’t even use, which is a great thing as well. It just goes to show that you can do it. If you bear down and put your nose to the grindstone, you can get it done. We’ve proved that. The results will speak for themselves. We’re really happy with the record.

 

MAA: Thirteen will be your third album with the band. Has your playing changed over these albums if at all, since you came into the band?

SD: I don’t think it has too much. I have been playing for so long, I play the way I play. Playing your own stuff is easy. Emulating others is the trick. If you got asked to play something by EDDIE VAN HALEN, maybe some stuff you could do and some stuff you couldn’t because it’s not who you are. For me I am emulating a lot of different drummers, which is fun too. Maybe there are some things I might have done differently back in the day if it was me, but it’s neither here nor there. For me the stuff I have played on, it’s just the way I naturally play. Stylistically, I haven’t changed much at all. I’ve always been a double-bass playing metal drummer. I haven’t changed, I’ve just gotten older. (laughs)

 

MAA: Who was your favorite MEGADETH drummer before you joined the band?

SD: Gar (Samuelson)! Hands down! For me its all about the original lineup. I love all the drummers, they are all great and I respect all of them a lot, but for me its all about Gar. Gar was really a fusion drummer when they really mixed fusion with speed metal. There were other bands that came in after and took it further with that, but MEGADETH were really pioneers, whether they realized it or not. They probably did, but maybe they didn’t realize they were invented something very cool. Chris Poland and Gar. It’s just the original lineup is the one for me and certainly my favorite MEGADETH line-up.


Shawn said Gar Samuelson is his favorite MEGADETH drummer, hands down.

 

MAA: Speaking of that lineup: is the band still going to do a tour celebrating the Peace Sells 25th anniversary?

SD: I don’t know. The thing with that is we were only supposed to do the Rust In Peace 20th Anniversary tour for one tour leg. Then Tom Araya from SLAYER got injured and we canceled a tour. So we had to decide if we wanted to come off the road and wait for Tom’s issues to clear up or do this tour for the fans. So Dave and management had the idea to do more of the 20th Anniversary tours. And then David (Ellefson) came back in the band and all these ducks started lining up. It wasn’t planned like that, but then it just evolved this way. And people say oh you have to play here and play there so it lasted a full year. Would I like to do it? Yeah. Do I want to do it for a year? No. You don’t want to become that band that does that kind of thing because this year it’s Peace Sells and next year it would be the 20th anniversary of Countdown and it just keeps going and going. But everybody was so jacked up about of us doing all of Rust In Peace. So we were like “why not?” MEGADETH had never done anything like playing an entire album live in their career. And I’m glad we did it! Again, it was just something that evolved and we went with it. We’re glad we did it. It was really successful. We made a live album and a DVD out of it so it was really, great fun. Anything is possible, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Certainly not for an entire tour.

 

This thrash masterwork is 25 years old in 2011.

 

MAA: Any adjustments from the year of playing the Rust In Peace set to doing a more standard MEGADETH set on this tour?

SD: We practice part of the set everyday back stage, not the whole thing but a few songs for warm up. In an environment like this, your casual everyday rockers who just want to rock out want you to play the songs they know. You want to appeal to the masses at this kind of tour. If you were a casual LYNYRD SKYNYRD fan and they didn’t play “Freebird”, you’d be really pissed. For us we know we have to play “Symphony”, “Peace Sells”, “Holy Wars” and we gotta play “Hangar 18” every show. “A Tout Le Monde” we should really play every show and we’ve been trying to. Our fans are so hardcore and they want to hear the most obscure songs, which we have also tried to do here and there. Depending on what we are doing and where we are doing it we will sometimes throw out an obscure track. But then that goes over the heads of 80% of the audience and they go “what the hell was that? Was that a new tune?” With this kind of tour, we need to reach out to their fans, like the GODSMACK and DISTURBED fans might know our name and maybe a few tunes, but they may not really know too much about us. We might try to play our well known songs and try to latch on to them. I think it’s better if we do that so we play our “hits”. Which I know sounds like it should be a dirty word for metal, but it is not.

 

MAA: Now that we are in the second year of Big 4 shows are you still pumped up for them?

SD: Oh yeah! How could I not be? We have been playing to crowds of 50,000 people up every show. Yankee Stadium? It will probably be one of the top three venues to play in my life time. Not to diss any other venue. One of my bucket-list things was always to play Madison Square Garden, but screw that! I’m playing Yankee Stadium! Every show with the Big 4 has been just so beyond massive. We are all thrilled to be part of it. We’re making history. It’s so cool that after twenty-five years or more its been great to do it for the fans and for all four bands. It’s good for metal and the fans really wanted to see it. I hope it continues… forever! Yankee Stadium is the only show we have on the books right now. Who knows what the future brings? We’ll see.


photo used by permission of Curtis Dunlap 2011

Shawn Drover and David "Junior" Ellefson play "Dawn Patrol".

 

(Special Thanks to Shawn Drover, Roadrunner Records and Curtis Dunlap Photography)

 

by Keith (Keefy) Chachkes

 

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BIRTH A.D.’s Jeff Tandy Takes on Thrash’s Next Big 4

Monday, July 18th, 2011

There has been a fair amount of press on the whole “Big 4” showcase, even though the bands in question have been pretty stingy about making the package available to most of their American fans. Perhaps the most undersold moment was at the Indio, California, performance when Slayer’s Jeff Hanneman came out on stage with his hollowed-out right arm to play an encore with his bandmates. Necrotizing fasciitis is some serious shit, and the fact that he was able to perform at all says everything about his (and, by extension, Slayer’s) true greatness.

All things considered, Terrorizer Magazine’s recent “Choose the new Big 4” poll couldn’t have been more inappropriate. The whole premise of new bands effectively replacing the biggest names in the genre is ludicrous in any case. We’re talking about bands who changed the world (well, at least in the case of Metallica and Slayer), and who were inarguably popular and successful.

There will never be another thrash band that sells a million copies of anything, ever. The industry keeps trying to do this pathetic Pet Sematary thing with the propped-up retro-thrash gimmick, but it isn’t working. Like the man said, sometimes dead is better! More significantly, the bands mentioned don’t even properly represent a post-download era movement. Who are they?? I see a couple of bands I recognize, including my Texan compatriots in Pasadena Napalm Division (they’re good, check them out), but with a few exceptions this list is full of nobodies that will make zero impact on metal, period.

The Brits love to act like their nation’s current output is just as good as the NWOBHM stuff, but the only ones they’re fooling are themselves. Evile is not going to become a dynasty, no matter how bad those gob hacks over at Terrorizer want it to be true. Keep in mind that this is the same publication that repeatedly put the execrable Akercocke on their cover, even though they were virtually anti-popular outside of London. Pretty much the last British band that made any waves was Cradle of Filth, and since then it has been nothing but blue Mondays for that sad little island. Napalm Death hasn’t helped things with their insistence on recording new albums.

So, back to this stupid list; some of you might be reading this and thinking, “Hey, fuck you! Juggern0rt is my favorite band! They’re gonna rule the world!” If that’s you, then you’re beyond help. Enjoy your deluded life. As for the rest of you, I’ll employ the litmus test by which all metal should be judged -  if aliens landed on earth and ordered you to recommend relevant new thrash bands, would you give them this list? Think it over. The fate of mankind could depend on it!

More to the point, this list reveals the conceit of retro-thrash; the motivations are largely about living in the past and riding the coattails of bands that were actually memorable and meaningful. There’s far too much focus on retread and imitation, and no concern for creating something viable for the new generation of fans. As it stands, to claim that any current band can stand with the Big 4 is as reasonable as Civil War recreationists trying to take credit for winning back the South.

The bottom line is that bands like Slayer are huge for a reason and they simply will not be replaced, especially if modern thrash continues to serve as some kind of RenFaire for denim enthusiasts. And on a personal note, I am not in the least bit annoyed that Birth A.D. was not mentioned. I’ve never been so proud to be excluded.

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The Big Bore

Monday, January 24th, 2011

So, apparently the Big Four is now coming to America, but don’t worry all you fans on the east coast or the middle of the country, you won’t ever know they’re here. Don’t get me wrong, the bands are great but how can you play ONE fucking show on the continent that you’re all from? Plus, who gives a fuck about the Big Four in 2011? I’m just not excited at this point. They’ve already played several times together in Europe. I was already sent a copy of this performance on HD DVD. I’ve already seen it. Two out of the four are past their prime when it comes to a live show and the other two are not at the top of their game either. Therefore, I have taken the liberty to create a few BIG 4 scenarios that I would actually get excited for.

Big 4 Hip Metal Bands:
Nachtmystium
Agalloch
Deathspell Omega
Krallice

Big 4 Crusty Metal Bands:
Trap Them
Early Graves (RIP Makh)
KEN mode
Black Breath

Big 4 Obscure Death Metal Bands:
Portal
Grave Miasma
Vasaeleth
Mitochondrion

Big 4 Djent:
Periphery
TesseracT
Monuments
Cloudkicker

Big 4 Beardos:
Mastodon
Baroness
Torche
Intronaut

Big 4 Warped Tour:
A Day To Remember
Bring Me The Horizon
The Devil Wears Prada
Architects UK

Big 4 Winds of Plague Keyboardists
Kristen Randall
Alana Potocnik
Lisa Marx
Matt Feinman LOL

Big 4 Imaginary Bands
Stillwater
Josie and the Pussycats
The Lone Rangers
The Shitty Beatles

I would be infinitely more excited for these than anything the Big 4 have to offer. However, somehow I imagine I’ll end up hearing about it from here until a year after it happens….

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